Thursday, September 13, 2007

Politics and Religion

I don't discuss the topics and I tell people that when they attempt to engage me in the discussion of that subject or religion. I don't even like discussing either one on my blog. Why? Because the discussion always leads to an argument if at least 2 people have opposing or non-mathing views.

Case in point: I got a text message last night from a friend of mine who lives in Memphis. The text convo went as follows:

RH: Vote for Obama in 08.

Me: I think i'm voting for Hillary Clinton.

RH: Lord another sell out. Trying to keep a Black man out of the White House.

Me: I'm not gonna vote for him just because he is black.

RH: SELL OUT. Why can't you support the Black man?

Me: Did you vote for Alan Keyes or Al Sharpton in the 04 Presidential election?

Me: Do you shop at Black-owned stores in your own neighborhood? Do you buy Hip/Hop and Rap music of artist just because they are black? *he purports to only buy gospel music*

RH: I guess you proved my point *as I thought "WTF", how did I prove your point?*

Me: This is why I don't discuss politics and religion. Keep those opinions to yourself. You are officially on my shit list.

And this people, is why I don't discuss politics or religion. If you have a different outlook from another person, then you are part of the evil sect that must be destroyed. I guess that if this church-fiend friend finds out that I don't believe in Jesus or human-organized religion, then our friendship is over. Oh well.

You will never ever hear me attempt to persuade someone to believe the things that I believe. And I hate when other people try to force their beliefs or choices on me. I leave people to believe in what they want to and act as they want to act and I would love the same courtesy. As I always say, what one person eats will never make me shit.

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Blogger fuzzy said...

You know what, I believe that I would stand behind Hilary more than I would for Obama. I have to listen to the debates when they start popping up. Thats when I will know for sure

9:00 PM, September 13, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this stage of the game, it's all about who's going to look out for my best interest. Race has nothing to do with it.

9:46 PM, September 13, 2007  
Blogger E said...

I'm still torn between Obama and Hillary msyelf. I'm leaning towards Obama myself, though I hate people that call others sellouts just because they don't automatically pick someone just because they're black. And heh...RH was a bit silly there.

But I hear you about not trying to force your beliefs down someone's throat. I feel the same.

12:01 AM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger J said...

WHAT!!!! you dont believe in Jesus!!!???

LOL kidding.

We all get passionate about what we believe in, but Jesus never forced himself on anyone so I'm not sure why anyone professing to love Jesus, would push anything on anyone else. I might drop some light jesus hints, but never a brick.

To me people are people. What I believe in now isn't the same as what I believed 10 years from now. We change, we grow, we evolve. Your friend is now officially on the short bus. Text him and tell him to pick up his helmet at the office.

7:45 AM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger Kensilo said...

I agree with you totally. I only discuss these topics with my best friend. Only because no matter how much oif an argument we get into the next minute we can end the discussion to talk about something else without any tension. I said my point, he stated his and its done with. Only with him does this work.

7:57 AM, September 14, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having a Democratic candidate in the White House will be murder for Americans. Support Mitt Romney. How can any support hip-hop? That garbage should be exiled!

8:23 AM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger Mr. Jones said...

You're friend is simply a buffoon. Anyone who is unable to have a civil conversation on topics that arent even that hot button should be slapped.

That's what you should've done. Driven to Memphis, slapped his ass, and driven back to Atlanta.

8:51 AM, September 14, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL@ Mr. Jones

9:10 AM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger Cocoa Rican said...

I can't say I discuss either topics, but I will blurt out my opinion or choices without regard for those around me. Conversely, I really am not affected by the comments of others...take for example the homophobic-self-hating-fat-queen the Captain...she's always running her mouth on some dumb shit (refer to comment above for example) and yet we normally coexist with her. LOL

9:29 AM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger bLaQ~n~MiLD said...

(LMAO@ Cocoa rican)

Ummmmm...well I have an alternate perspective. Being that I relish a good political debate, I tend to get into them frequently. Most are not drummed up by yours truly. All it takes is for someone to say something I disagree with and then the famous line "You sound like a Republican" to which I proudly respond "I am" to set off an interesting exchange. I don't try to force my beliefs on people (although some would disagree), however, for any belief that I have, I put forth facts to support my beliefs. I do not debate 'feelings', I debate 'fact'. Ok I'm probably boring ya'll right now so I'll shut up lol.

@Captain...I'm still a bit undecided right now but I'm leaning pretty heavily towards Fred Thompson. Romney really doesn't do it for me personally...

4:56 PM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger lj said...

I actually have no problem discussing either topic as long as my opinion is respected and not just dismissed because it differs from the other persons. Well except for work..Don't discuss them at work at all

5:06 PM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger Ty said...

I only discuss those topics with people who realize that they are only opinions and I have my right just as you have yours. If you start to get heated, then I will end it by changing the subject or just walking away. Life is already stressful enough.

8:38 PM, September 14, 2007  
Blogger yet another black guy said...

i try not to discuss those topics much either. all it ends up being is someone trying to change your views instead of seeing things from a different perspective.

12:48 PM, September 15, 2007  
Blogger C. Baptiste-Williams said...

i think it is more to do with the person u are talking to rather than the topic.

the fact that people would support someone just because of their race is just as stupid as supporting someone just because of their political party.

3:31 PM, September 15, 2007  
Blogger the~enigma said...

Yeah, that is what causes arguments and I'll say I respect peoples opinions and expect the same from other people. However, there are some things you just don't discuss because of the many views....and like you ...yo i never try to engage in religion or politics cause I notice it can get I feel you

5:04 PM, September 16, 2007  
Blogger *Madosi said...

Interesting ... while I am all for supporting my people, I am with you. I am not sure I want Obama in the White House just yet.

Why? Well, I think he needs some time. I think it is great that another Black man is running and could potentially get the nomination. But I am a firm believer in experience (that and I want him to be VP so when he does win President, I can work for him).

5:10 PM, September 17, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too have learned to stay away from talks on politics with people unless I know where they stand. For me, I haven't chosen between Obama, Clinton, or Edwards. However, I must remind everybody on the support the black man topic; everyone who looks like you, ain't like you. Two words, Clarence Thomas. I'm through with it.

5:34 PM, September 17, 2007  
Blogger bLaQ~n~MiLD said...

LoL@ two words, 'Clarence Thomas'. Hmmmmmmmmm...very very interesting.

1:48 PM, September 18, 2007  

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